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Marauder Shields 33: Reborn (Mass Effect) by koobismo Marauder Shields 33: Reborn (Mass Effect) by koobismo
The 33rd Episode of the "Marauder Shields" Mass Effect comic.

In this one... The mystery of what's lurking underneath London is finally revealed!

Be sure to play this track in the background to upgrade your reading experience: [link]

This is an ongoing story providing an alternative fan-made ending to the Mass Effect trilogy, with a single game-changing maverick transforming the course of history: Marauder Shields. Be sure to start reading at episode 6.

Thanks to MichelKobayashi for making us believe in Marauder Shields and to my awesome team, including AdoreeLyssa, our pro editor and the valiant AssaultSloth, who not only was there to bounce some ideas of, but also prepared the 3d model of the Thorian tentacle used throughout this comic!

Hope is Alive!

[The Mass Effect universe, its design and characters are owned by BioWare/EA Productions. This is a work of parody and fan-fiction, created under the terms of fair use. Special thanks to BioWare for creating the world we all love and care for! I remain a huge ME & BW fan!]

P.S. The next episode might be late a few days, not yet sure - I will know more on Friday. I will, however, be catching up on some on our comments and discussions since tomorrow - I have been immensely focused on this episode until now. :)

P.S.2. If you're not following me yet, do so at [link] - I sometimes tell you true stuff about life and owning a dachshund.

P.S.3. Help me spread this series around - retweet, send out links, share this with your friends and post it on your facebook wall! Everything helps!

P.S.4. There are more big reveals ahead of us! Be prepared. ;) And be sure to discuss your thoughts on what's happening with Cerberus and our whole plot underneath, in the comments section!
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SpartasMaximus Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2013
THE DAMN THORIAN.... bioware I hate u!!!!
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CrulLovetroy Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013
this totally deserves much more comments!! :)
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tarekshamas Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
yes Leviathan needs to be 'in" some how :P
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TheWonderingSword Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012   Writer
Which reminds me, I gotta get started on my massive Leviathan re-write. :D
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marthinus1990 Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2012
Soo..London was the Reapers' focus due to the thorian? Or rather a thorian,since I'm pretty sure my Shep killed one on Feros?

P.S-Best series of all time!
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DoctorCaligula Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012
Interesting twist, but will the Leviathans be showing up at any point?
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koobismo Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012
I've penned down the scenario for "Marauder Shields" right after finishing Mass Effect 3, way before the Leviathan DLC was out. After playing the DLC (which I found fun and enjoyable, overally) I've decided that the backstory presented there wasn't good enough to force the Leviathans into "MS", especially that they would become the same thing they became in ME3 - a gamechanger than never really changed the game, which I think works badly.

You can check out my thoughts on the DLC and its story here (and be sure to read some of the comments - there are quite a few valuable thoughts on it from our lil' community :)): [link] - as well as how I want to treat it (in short: release a "comic patch" for the DLC to make it compatible with "MS", but not allow it to change anything of value of what I penned down back in March). ;)
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Andrijakos Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2012
I agree with Your points on Leviathan. My main complaint with the DLC was that what we found underwater was not a rogue reaper like the announcements said. That would have been a good plot twist. As I see it, reapers are created from biological materials of an entire race, and should have at least some trace remnants of the races from which they originated. So every reaper would be an individual. Having one that disagreed with the reaper agenda would imply that they had freedom of will, and that would make them much more interesting and powerful antagonists. Take an ancient, nearly omnipotent space faring group of beings/machines that WANT to annihilate you because of their reasons (whatever these reasons would be) vs an ancient, nearly omnipotent space faring group of vacuum cleaners programmed to clean up the Milky way galaxy every 50,000 years. Essentially iReaper Roombas. (Infringing on two copyrighted terms, but I like it. To me it fits perfectly to the ME3 official ending). To me it was another Deus ex machina that essentially solved nothing.

My advice to You would be to forget the patch completely. Firstly, because You envisioned how Your story would go before You even played Leviathan. I would hate if something interfered with Your "artistic integrity". What when they release Take back Omega? You would have to change a bunch of comics containing Aria, the entire citadel plot would be compromised. And I think a lot of people like it the way it is, I know that I do. But the most important reason is a selfish one. Making patches and trying to fit the DLC into the MS storyline will take time away from the original MS storyline. And you having a modicum of a life as it is, coupled with the day having only 24 hours and the idiotic need to sleep that human beings have, makes updates slower than I would like.
Ideally: one fully voiced comic per day.
Pozdrav.
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DoctorCaligula Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2012
Forgot to add:

With BOTH Leviathan and Star Child, the conversations where they explain the creation of the Reapers were pretty much entirely in Shepard's head, with nobody else to witness them. Some food for thought.
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DoctorCaligula Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2012
Have they confirmed "Take Back Omega" DLC? It always seemed like rumors and speculation.

Though not required, Leviathan and Javik are too important to be ignored, Javik because he reveals what the Protheans are really like, and Leviathan is the real mastermind behind the rachni wars, and an indication that control of the Reapers is possible. Plus, husks duking it out with each other, that's an image that's just too good to pass up.

For my money, I just want Harbinger to talk, and for him to have more than just a measly 30 seconds of screen time. The BW writers could've easily given him a quick appearance in the opening battle in Vancouver, they had no business NOT doing it.
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Andrijakos Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2012
I've read somewhere that mentions of a mission on Omega were found in the game files of the original ME3, so I think it's a safe bet they'll sell that DLC. Extra money, and the ending is unaffected- no artistic integrity lost. I agree that Javik should remain in the ME universe, it's shameful that he was a DLC character in the first place. This whole day one Patch, day one DLC has gone too far. I remember the time when games you bought were actually finished products, and I'm not that old. I won't buy anymore Bioware products, they ruined the trust I had in them since Baldurs Gate, and more that anything else I won't reward financially such developmental and publishing policy. Koobismo is giving us the ending the trilogy deserved, for free. That is the only thing connecting me to the ME universe at this point. I'm writing this on my phone so overlook the spelling mistakes.
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DoctorCaligula Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2012
I think it was the leaked files, might've been before the Invasion comic was finished, given the different names. IIRC, Aria sends you after a character that appears to be a VERY early blueprint for that Russian guy from the comic, but Zaeed's guarding him. If you had secured Zaeed's loyalty in ME2, then you could get Zaeed to stand down, otherwise you had to fight him to the death. You had a boss fight with an Adjutant, called a Pariah in the files. They ultimately decided to go a different way with Zaeed, and animation/engine issues made it impossible to integrate Adjutant/Pariah into gameplay.

Though most of the ending could be attributed to Casey Hudson's Napoleon compled, RPGeeks must accept their share of blame for the ending. Those three choices were completely unecessary, they should've sidestepped all that crap about "the Crucible won't fire, it's gotta be something on your end" and just have it fry the Reapers after while Anderson and Shepard have their "we did it" speech. The ending was supposed to be the culmination of all the choices you made throughout the trilogy, so a final choice at the the end was not really necessary. Had I been running things, and RPGeeks asked "where's the final choice," I would have told them "get a life you silly little nerds, this is about the culmination of your choices, that should be enough for you."

I am NOT an RPGeek, and I'm damn proud not to be one. I was drawn to Mass Effect's rich SF mythology, sweeping storylines, and appealing characters. I'm sick of all those silly little nerds saying things like "all that auto dialogue is a soul killer." The ME community needs a Rex Velvet to put the RPGeeks in their place. I'm not suggesting that it should be me though, that would be a job for someone whose actually funny.

<<Koobismo is giving us the ending the trilogy deserved, for free.<<
And I appreciate that, if I wasn't a fan of what he was doing, I wouldn't be here. But one must also remember that the ME universe has a lot of mileage beyond Shepard and the Reapers, there are hundreds of other stories that could be told through multiple forms of media. I imagine Koob might understand that, but I get the feeling you don't, if this is your ONLY connection to it.
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Andrijakos Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2012
I don't know where you got the idea that I don't understand that the ME universe has a lot of mileage above and beyond Shepard. It`s a big franchise with millions of fans and I'm certain that EA/Bioware will do their best to milk it to the end. First with DLCs for ME3 and after that with a nice prequel/sequel to the trilogy.
I agree with you that the ME universe is extremely rich and well crafted and for the most part it is pretty coherent. But here is why I wont play any of them- the endings.
If they pick one of the 3 endings as canon for the sequel (they cannot pick reject if they want to stay in the current ME universe containing humans), they invalidate all the talk they had about CHOICE. And honestly the ME universe after the endings sucks, I will not elaborate as to why.
If they make a prequel, whatever I do I would still know that the world will suck in a couple of years/decades. You meet young Shepard for example, Oh you are the boy/girl who will pick multicolored endings in the future, or doom us all to extinction...
No thanks, I have better ways of spending my time. I watch this site because I like MS, K is smart, coherent, talented and most importantly he communicates with his audience. I watch and enjoy the comics and try to predict where he will go next, like a detective game. It is quite fun.

PS: I do not understand this RPGeek part. bear with me, English is not my mother tongue.
What are RPGeeks? How could they have swayed ME3 writers pregame to give us an ABC ending when the same writers changed nothing after the fan backlash at the same ABC ending postgame? How can You be proud not to be something? I always understood pride as a feeling that people get after they accomplish something. Like, Koobismo is proud of his Marauder Shields comic.
If being a RPGeek is inherently bad, I still do not understand how pride can stem from not being one. To me it is like being proud not to be a racist. That is nothing to be proud of, just normal. I must admit that I do not understand this, but it is probably because of the language barrier and the time zone i am in. It is kinda late here, I haven't slept much and I get up early in the morning.
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Andrijakos Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2012
I meant Javik should remain in the MS universe, he already is a part of the ME universe; damn phones with their little screens and little keyboards...
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CrulLovetroy Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012
I was wondering, is the Thorian itself the reason why the reapers stay focused on London? Or the fact its spores can prevent indoctrination? Did they attack the city because of fear there might remain some resistance by those who are infected with the Thorian's spores? Or because the want something from the Thorian? :)

Since you said you would reveal the reason why the Reapers are interested in London in this episode, I'd like to pinpoint you only revealed what's lurking underneath London^^
Anyways, awesome as always :)
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CrulLovetroy Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2012
Thanks for your fast reply :)
No, no, I didn't want to sound like I want faster answers!! :) Please, don't rush anything, promise me! :) Everything's fine just as it is. I only wanted to know for sure I didn't miss something important, which could have happened easily since it's obvious your english is so far beyond my own I ... well, alright, I actually can comprehend it, but can't be sure I understand every single word as intended. However, now I know I didn't miss another giant revelation, thank you for that :)
I appreciate all this guessing and thinking about what will happen next. However, since I'm quite used to the whole writing stories thingy, I suppose I at least have a clue about what could happen next :) The Thorian surprised me, but I think I understand quite a lot of things now.
About one of my questions being close to the truth...well, there aren't really more logical possibilities then those I considered, at least those are the only ones I could think of (being in quite a hurry, though, so I might've either missed something OR you didn't play all of your cards yet, which I expect to be far more likely) :)
One more little question: You mentioned some of your relatives are from Austria ... do you speak a little German? :)
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koobismo Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012
You're partially right in your last sentence, though I'd like to counterpoint that this episode pretty much does reveal why the Reapers were so interested in London, even if it doesn't list their reasons in a nicely organized list... ;)

As you can see with Jana and Nihlus I like to play around with minds that are either bordering on insanity or have been forced into an unnatural, mind-deforming perspective, which in turn provides quite a few answers in quite an indirect way. However, since this should be implied by the lines about the Cold Ones - the Reapers have focused on London because of the Thorian.

Now, about what exactly do the Reapers want from the Thorian... That's closely connected to two of our main plot points: the Crucible and TIM's overarching masterplan. I don't believe its yet the time to show all of TIM's cards, so to get exact details on that... We'll have to wait a bit. ;) I don't want it to feel rushed, infodumped as "secondary info" with the Thorian reveal, since it's far from being "secondary" for the story. Sorry if it seems slow, but I'm giving out all the details at a very exact pace. ;)

Let me just say that one of your questions... Might lead closer to the truth than you think. ;)
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CrulLovetroy Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2012
hm,the above answer was meant to be a reply to your comment, no idea why it didn't work as intended :)
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Haupmann Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012
Well...that was unexpected, but makes sense. Why would it have been so easy to kill the thorian? Why wouldn't TIM pick something of it up and use it?
Kinda wondering if theres going to be some husk vs creeper action now...

Interesting codex too. Kind of explains why the thorian didn't make a bunch of ships or something, guess it was going for organic superiority. Too bad guns outclassed it.
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koobismo Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012
I'm going even further with this: the Thorian was not only pretty unique in ME1, it was also deceptively similar to the Reapers in some ways (had its own method of pseudo-indoctrination, created creepers similar to the Reaper husks, consider itself a godlike creature, seen other creatures as good only for being used for a purpose, etc.) - and I'm definitely playing with that. I'd suggest focusing on the use of the words "Order" and "Chaos" both in this Episode and back in Episode 30, as well as what Cerberus does to the Thorian and how it ends (corruption of Jana, where Shiala was perfectly healthy after being subjugated by the original, unmodified Thorian). I can just say that this is definitely foreshadowing a couple of things. ;)

As for organic superiority - yessir, yes indeed. It also explains at least 5 "why? questions I asked myself when preparing this plot, stopping them from becoming possible plotholes. ;)
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Haupmann Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2012
Hmm thats true, and Cerberus did try controlling them both at some point(that worked out well). Order and Chaos? Hmm, reminds me of Sovereign. Ahem.
"WE IMPOSE ORDER ON THE CHAOS OF ORGANIC EVOLUTION. YOU EXIST BECAUSE WE ALLOW IT, AND YOU WILL END...BECAUSE WE DEMAND IT."
Damn I miss him and harby.
Well Shiala was...mostly healthy. She did turn green and her biotics screwed up.
Cool, i like foreshadowing, no matter how subtle.

Well organic superiority makes sense. Organic life always has a few advantages over synthetics. Like Garrus out-calibrating legion and why Joker is still the pilot when theres an AI on board. Oh yeah...and shepard.
I could see the advantages of trying to use thorian parts. I mean those creepers near it were meant to be damn ancient!(still killed wrex by spewing all over him, ew). See even if you don't explain everything about Cerberus and the Thorian, it still makes sense, especially with TIM enhancing his soldiers using whatever means necessary. The connections are fairly easy to make. It does make me wonder if TIM was trying to become some kind of hive mind himself, and just control all of Cerberus by himself(and i mean psychically, or whatever).
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FritoDan Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012
The Feros colonists develop some health problems post-Thorian; Shiala's biotics go haywire and her skin turns permanently green.

When you say the colonists and Shiala were "healthy," are you just speaking relatively to Jana (and that I'm reading too deeply into this, haha)?

Hmm... suddenly your London Thorian seems to have something in common with the rachni on Noveria to me.
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InverseReality-2 Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2012
Oh, that's some nice thick layering of plot on the Marauder Shields toast of goodness, Koobs!
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koobismo Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012
Thank you, Inverse! ;) I intend to go places (already defined places, I might add :D) with this plot, so hopefully it will turn out to be a big thing, not only explaining a bunch of stuff, but also filling some of ME3's omissions. ;)
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embracedestruction Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2012
A Thorian? Well played sir... well played. It's always nice to see plot lines from ME1 come back.

I have a feeling that when MS is concluded, people will debate whether or not Cerberus are heroes or villains. Much better than ME3's boring, one dimensional 'Cerberus is indoctrinated' garbage
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koobismo Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012
Thank you. :) Yeah, I definitely don't want Cerberus to end up as a Bond-like villain once again. I, however, don't want to suddenly wash off all their sins, apparent racism and ultrarenegade "don't think about the victims, think about the goal" approach either. I want them to be ambiguous, hard to place on a standard black-and-white board. You can actually see that in this episode - they are acting towards defeating the Reapers apparently, but the way they are doing that brings in corruption (Jana is sick and corrupted, unlike Shiala in ME1), meddling with nature, destroying a lot of things along the way... I just want it to be as grey as they were back in ME2. Because I find that type of characterization fascinating.
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Xatras Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012
Oh for God's sake! Cerberus always were villains. Since ME 1. Cerberus from ME 2 is a nice mask created to make Shepard think they are not so bad. For those who are too naive or too dumb to get this, Bioware even created records at Cronos station where TIM openly orders to get some nice people to Normandy.
And people still don't get it. Looks like Einstein was indeed right about at least one infinite thing...
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koobismo Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012
Well, I'm afraid you're simply missing the big picture gere.

Cerberus was way more than just a villain in ME2, even if it was scheming and showing its prettier face - and that's why it worked so perfectly... Some people had a problem with how they were portrayed there, I thought it was brilliant - finally an organization that people are both ready to sympathize with and despise. It's layered, it's ambiguous, it makes you ask certain questions, it puts you on the edge instead of creating a simplistic underreality of white vs. black... And that's why it's awesome writing.

You see, across pop culture you can find various versions of villains - from "chaotic evil" ones (they just "want to see the world burn") to ones that truly believe in a higher goal, perhaps even an enlightened one, and are just achieving it via methods we generally consider "evil".

A good example of such a story would be "Watchmen", a brilliant comic and an awesome narrative - Ozymandias is both the comic's main antagonist, villain, but also the only character who actually steps out of his comfort zone to try and save the world. And he achieves just that... with genocide. It makes you uneasy, it makes you both revolted and guessing your own perceptions, and because of that... It's, once again, awesome writing.

The way Cerberus is handled in ME3 regresses that way of writing, it regresses Cerberus to the state it was in ME1 (before the writers decided to make it something much more) - to the state that would be perfect for a sidequest antagonist. It focuses on a single, shallow element of Cerberus and casts them into the standard (and, at least for me, boring) mold of a "Bond-like villain".

It is a decision the writers made *during the development of ME3* - the Cronos vids are there to explain this retroactively, retconning some of the stuff we knew from ME2. We are of course considering these canon, but I want this to be clear - as with the ending, it was something written during ME3, something new. During ME2's development the official ending was still the "Dark Energy" storyline, something dumped completely after Drew Karpyshyn, Mass Effect's lead writer and inventor, left BioWare... Just google it out, it's a widely known fact.

Now, pulling that Einstein quote on people who actually understand the fact that the way Cerberus was written actually changed between the games AND want it to be a deeper thing than just "yup, we're evil men doing evil things because, guess what, we're evil" - not nice and not wise.
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koobismo Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012
P.S. Just so you know - my reply wasn't an attempt to bash you, I have nothing against you having a different opinion than someone else. I just want to be clear - neither you, nor anyone else should be considered stupid for having different views, outlooks and opinions. That's not the way it should work.
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Xatras Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2012
Yes, yes, you are right, everyone is entitled to have his own opinion. So, people (and specially embracedestruction ), sorry for that part about Einstein. Very rude. I got carried away a bit, because I just can't stand when someone tries to cast Cerberus as a hero.
P.S. I am well aware that villain can believe in something good and try to do a right thing. I just don't consider Cerberus goals good, as well as it's means.
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aichnas Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2012
The music accompanying this was so perfect. I got chills reading this!
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koobismo Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012
Thanks, Aichnas. :) Hopefully more chills are on the way. ;)
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Seracen Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012
Aw man, I love how this is bringing so many of the plots full circle. The Thorian is an inspired arrival into the finale!
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koobismo Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012
Thank you, Seracen. ;) I'm definitely going places with this storyline. If you'd like to dive a bit deeper, compare the line about the Thorian being forced to grow along certain paths to Sovereign's speech from ME1, and check out the appearance of the "Chaos vs Order" dichotomy in this episode and episode 30. ;)
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Akila-Delpanther Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012
So basically what I got from this ep sheer awesome and sorrow for Jana :( aside is that Cerberus are more of a 'grey' villian if you will allow that term, they walk the line between good and bad using methods that others disapprove of and hate in order to try and save all from their own folly and I now feel sorry for the illusive man ( not by much mind you but still) he tried stop us falling in pot the reaper trap I think, I am probably butchering this and I am sorry anyway would just like to say when is the next one and this choice in music, why are you not choosing music for films I mean you would be really good epic films would become epicer if you did :) anyway I'm babbling awesome ep continue :)
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koobismo Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012
Thanks, I did want Jana's story to come off as tragic. :) Yeah, as much as I don't want to wash off Cerberus' sins or evildoing, I want them to feel a bit less like a Bond-like villain, a bit more guided, idealistic, even if in the end... still a villain. I liked the way they rubbed off in ME2 way more than the way they were written in ME3.

As far as your music suggestion goes - there are two things connected to that. Firstly, film music has been composed with certain scenes in mind - and, as a film music buff, I usually can recall the scene it was originally accompanying pretty vividly, which would break the experience for myself (and for many others, I think). Secondly, there is a very specific logic in choosing only tracks that are created for royalty-free usage - it is a case of copyrights and the fact that for their authors it is presented to new potential customers (as it is being resold for big bucks to various companies and media makers), whereas in the case of film music it only takes away from an author's royalties.
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Akila-Delpanther Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012
Btw I meant the illusive man tried to stop us falling into the reaper trap of the crucible my iPad is currently hating me and has become a spelling-nazi I'm sorry for the terrible spelling.
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koobismo Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012
No worries, I'm often replying from my android tab myself, so errors and typos are a big part of my communications experience. ;)
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BlueDemonX Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012
Poor Jana....interesting devlopment, at least it makes us of the Thorian, who was ditched too early for my tastes! (would have loved to see more of him...imagine the knowledge it might contain!).

And IŽd like to point something out: The Thorian is just that old, meaning it would not need genetic memory, since it pretty much witnessed it all himself. No need to absorb a Rachni Queen...
It would only work if you think this Thorian has memories of his "parent" (which might have let its spores fly through space and reach another planet, like the Thresher Maws do, IIRC?!).
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koobismo Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012
Genetic memory is kind of important, when you remember that... The Thorian was killed in ME1. This isn't the same exact creature as that one - it is a modified (defiled, as someone might say ;)) clone, created anew from a sample that actually also contained the stored memories. :) Plus, we never really heard anything about the Thorian's lifespan, other than it was older than one cycle - what if it would be proven to be 3 or 5 cycles if I want it to go... A bit deeper? ;)

As for the knowledge it may have... Indeed. ;)
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BlueDemonX Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2012
Okay :)

Great to see you still take your time to answer your readers/fans :)
Keep at it!!
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baldulf2024 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012
While a bit confusing at first until I realized this was all about the Thorian this may be one of the best episodes so far. It really makes use of the Mass Effect universe to enrich the plot.

I can't wait to see the objectives of the Illusive Man.
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koobismo Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012
Thank you, Baldulf! :) And I can't wait to reveal TIM's objectives myself. >:)
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SilverIgnika Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012
Combing the discussions here, the Codex entries, and other episodes has lead me to a little conspiracy theory...

The spores are being ingested to grant a kind of immunity to traditional indoctrination, as shown by Shiala. Thus, when the Crucible fires (it was implied by Mordin that it is some sort of indoctrination device) the underground army and possibly all of London will be immune to indoctrination. London, as we know, is the hub of global communication, so it is not impossible that the spores were spread elsewhere in the world.

I think TIM might actually WANT the Crucible to fire, as he knew it was a trap from the Thorian and specifically did not tell any outside organization. Once it does fire, the people on Earth will be immune, and the fight will not be over. The flesh will be given a chance; a chance the Reapers could not prepare for.
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koobismo Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012
As I'm not willing to prove or disprove anything at this point, sticking to my guns, I can only say that this is indeed a nice looking theory. One detail: the IFSS has not been completed prior to the Reaper Invasion, so the plan wouldn't exactly work the way you've stated, at least not in present time. ;)
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kingpinsrevenge Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012
Another excellant edition, thought it might have been harbinger first time I read it so was alittle confused but soon got it ordered out. It will be interesting to see team dextro and liaras reaction to this if they get into the bunker. btw had a little chuckle when i noticed jack flying at the reaper...got a feeling someones gonna get hurt ;) One question though, does TIM know about the 'nature' of the catalyst aswell? would explain attitudes to shepard alot in the game especially the cronos convo.
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koobismo Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012
Thank you. ;) Yeah, putting the Jack into the first picture was my little barely-noticeable trick of setting the monologue's time at the same time as the end of episode 29. ;)

I can't give out any info on TIM's plans and knowledge gained from the Thorian, not before we get to that part... It will be full of reveals, I assure you. ;)
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Lakdav Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012
So to be clear. Is the purpose of harvesting the spores to develop an immunity to indoctrination as it was with Shiala, the asari on Zhu's Hope? Was that TIM's secondary plan regarding the thorian clone (after learning from it about the reapers and such)?
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koobismo Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012
The "being clear about this" part is exactly what I'm keeping for a bit later, when we get a much needed look into TIM's plans and reasoning. ;) I can just tell you that these are indeed good questions and that they will be both answered. :D
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StrawberryRainPop Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012
Great art, great music, and very thematic, but my small brain cant comprehend what is going on...

kind of confused, would appreciate it if someone could explain to me what happened in this episode!

thanks!
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