I'm starting to second guess my thoughts about it being Anderson or Hackett. Logically, the reason a second Catalyst would be needed would be the failure of Saren. And the only reason Shepard is the third is because of the failure of the Second.
I'm starting to think it's Legion. He was being used as a beacon to control the Geth, and he had direct contact with a Reaper mind. Although, if Shepard is the third, that means Legion didn't succeed in his betrayal. Which is good, because I don't want to see the Geth go evil on us, I love them too much. He was supposed to give the Reapers the Geth, and he failed.
My vote was for Archer. I was looking down your list of choices and just I knew in my gut that it was him.
As for everyone who voted for TIM, you need to realize something guys. The second catalyst would have been someone staying in the shadows for the most part, doing as little as possible to draw attention to themselves. TIM's two dimensional arrogant thinking and tunnel version when it came to reaching his goals would eliminate him outright. It's going to be someone that you have overlooked or are assuming that it couldn't possibly be.
This certainly is exciting team MS! I know that whoever you pick, it's going to be one hell of a Revan-like moment from SWTOR, with me shouting, "No! That's not true! That's impossible!", at the screen. This story is just that damn good!
I think its a nice idea, yet I think his role in the game series is too little to give him such stature.
Having read the comic about illusive mans backstory, (which makes his character much more awesome) I think that would be the obvious, logical, and good choice. His storys end , in ME3 is already pretty good, seeing as he (Quoting the dark knight here) Lives long enough To See himself Become the Villain. Anyway, I think thats a nice thing to do to a character in general.
Interesting. I did not vote for TIM, but let me offer you a counterargument just for the sake of fun discussion.
I'll give you that Saren was doing his stuff somewhat behind the scenes until he and Sovereign were ready to make their move on the Citadel. Shepard's never really been low key. But as for TIM, he's all about being "in the shadows!" He's assumed a mysterious alter ego for himself and heads up a clandestine organization. By ME3, Cerberus has certainly become more overt and noticeable in their actions, but no more than Saren running around the Terminus with his geth army was.
As a side note, I'm a little surprised that more people haven't picked Jack if for no other reason than her presence in the comics so far.
LOL I see your counterargument and raise you my explanation. I was mainly trying to point out that it was TIM's personal beliefs and way of thinking that would cut him form the list, not his whole group's actions. You make a very good point though, I'll give you that. Also, one thing I forgot to mention is that TIM is just to damn obvious if Team MS really wants to surprise people.
To be honest I have Jack and Hackett on my short list but my gut is telling me Archer. Who better than someone who hasn't been in this comic at all to shock it's readers? And if it does turn out to be Jack or Hackett... that would be an awesome piece of writing, but it would gut the audience emotionally... Like I said in my comment, no matter who it is in the end I'll probably end up shouting NNNOOO!!! at my screen.
We will have to wait and see what transpires. Just curious, who's on your short list besides Jack?
Hmm, interesting. I suppose I tend to think of TIM largely in terms of being a counterpart to Saren now, but you've reminded me of some of the equally important differences between them.
I didn't vote for Jack, but I was thinking about Koobs' little remarks about there being "clues" for who the second catalyst is already in the comic. I suppose there's also Miranda talking about her father's project and such, so I guess it really could be Oriana... that'd be a surprise.
In any case, Legion and Hackett are my short list. I agree that TIM is too obvious; I might even be a little disappointed it if turns out to be him, actually. And whoever it ends up being, I wouldn't put it past Koobs to give us an emotional gutting.
But all that aside... Archer would be awesome, the more I think about it.
I think it's Archer. The consequences of his acts at Overlord would have created an big opening for the Reapers. And the project was made by Cerberus, and then stopped by Shepard. Makes sense for me, at least.
I would like to see it be Legion. I would not like to see it be Hackett.
I agree that Legion is an interesting candidate to consider because he's synthetic. Seeing this poll and thinking about that, I went back and played through the dreadnought mission again. Legion tells Shepard that the Reapers were unable to "control" it the the way they were controlling all other geth ("This architecture prevents it."). I'm assuming Legion isn't lying or indoctrinated when it says this. So in regards to Koobs' comment on the catalyst only needing to "believe," perhaps from this we could conclude that Legion at first "believed" in what the Reapers were offering the geth, and then changed its stance?
Keeping in mind that the koobs-canon disregards the game's ending(s), it's perhaps worth pointing out that as far as kiddygod is concerned, the Reapers don't differentiate between organic and synthetic life; he explicitly tells Shepard that the Reapers harvest both organic and synthetic life. To them, life is life, and it all gets harvested. With that perspective, what difference does it make to the Reapers whether the catalyst is organic or synthetic? (Side-note: Are we to infer then that there are Reapers made from former synthetics? It would seem so.)
Beyond that, it's intriguing to me to consider whether or not synthetics could be indoctrinated at all due to their very nature. I guess it depends on how indoctrination "works."
For selfish reasons, I'm hoping it doesn't turn out to be Hackett. I came up with a cool scenario a while back where you could trace certain plot points back to Hackett to argue that he was indoctrinated and sorta guiding Shepard along. I didn't think it was actually true, but it was fun to think about and I was very proud of my cleverness. But now if I bring that up for some fun conversation, my other ME-playing buddies will think I stole it from Koobs.